Clarification

[Dug]

Hi all, would like to ask some views on how to go forward, I have permission to go onto land, but, the land is baron that someone has horses on, they are not paying any rent but let to use the land without the land owner having any responsibility, eg, one of the horses escaped through a broken fence, was killed on the road (very sad) however the land owner, because there was no contract, was exempt from any blame, my question is, do I just go on the land and dig away, or do I approach the horse owners and let them know, think the latter out of courtesy, however think they could put up a fight, mmm, had this before where horses concerned, thanks for any views, Rob

 

[Deus Lee]

So you've got permission from the land owner but the people who keep there horse there have no idea your turning up to dig?.

 

[Dug]

So you've got permission from the land owner but the people who keep there horse there have no idea your turning up to dig?.

With a chuckle, yes

 

[Dug]

On a legality, the field is empty.

 

[Deus Lee]

You really need to speak to the horse people then as you stated.

 

[Deus Lee]

On a legality, the field is empty.

You need to put yourself in the horse peoples position, what would you do if someone was digging up the field you kept your horse,

I have some horse pasture were race horses are kept the owner has no issue i just have to be very careful filling holes back in just ask its not worth a confrontation.

 

[Dug]

You really need to speak to the horse people then as you stated.

DL, yes, your right as I thought, my only fly, is they may put up a fight, (not in that sense) but may say otherwise, from there it's how I move forward, on a technicality there not supposed to be there, it's a tenuous one, thanks for taking the time.

 

[Deus Lee]

Just make it clear your very careful filling holes horse people are very concerned about a lame horse they have to be put down, good luck mate.

 

[Dug]

You need to put yourself in the horse peoples position, what would you do if someone was digging up the field you kept your horse,

I have some horse pasture were race horses are kept the owner has no issue i just have to be very careful filling holes back in just ask its not worth a confrontation.

The last thing I would want is confrontation, I'm a people person, will try and resolve any future development, just hope I don't have to play any ace card, that being my friend putting me over horses,

 

[Deus Lee]

The last thing I would want is confrontation

Good luck please keep us informed on the outcome.

 

[Deus Lee]

One other thing be very careful if you do detect the field horses dont like the Nox lol.

 

[Dug]

Good luck please keep us informed on the outcome.

Thanks DL I will do, can only hope for a positive outcome.

 

[Dug]

One other thing be very careful if you do detect the field horses dont like the Nox lol.

I watched it !! although the horse seemed not to be the main attraction LOL

 

[Wayne]

It's a odd one with them not been tenants and not paying rent. At least you've got permission off the land owner.
I would turn up and have a chat first and test the water. Let them know you have permission to dig off Mr ...........
I'm not one to dig in field with horses or cows but have plenty of land full of sheep.

Good luck mate.

 

[Bob T]

Very good pointers by Lee and Wayne, I’ll add my thoughts.
One thing I’d make clear from the start is that you do have the owners permission and you are going but of course do that in a very diplomatic way.
I wouldn’t give them the slightest impression that you are asking for their blessing, permission or approval and that you are just doing the decent thing by letting them know.
Good luck and let us know how you get on Dug.

 

[Wayne]

Very good pointers by Lee and Wayne, I’ll add my thoughts.
One thing I’d make clear from the start is that you do have the owners permission and you are going but of course do that in a very diplomatic way.
I wouldn’t give them the slightest impression that you are asking for their blessing, permission or approval and that you are just doing the decent thing by letting them know.
Good luck and let us know how you get on Dug.

I agree with how you put it mate. It was to early for me to put it into words but would of said same as you.

I'm now heading for the twin peaks or Roman slopes field with all the sheep

 

[Dug]

Thanks for the input everyone, been out this morning to a very foggy South Shields for a couple oh hours, ringpulls & tincans, other than that nothing, I did call into see the horse owners but there was no one there, will update when I know a little more, field just waiting to be dug, tempting but will do the decent thing.

 

[Oldschool]

go for it dug you can say you are taking all rubbish out of field that might injure the horses

 

[Bob T]

I agree with how you put it mate. It was to early for me to put it into words but would of said same as you.

I'm now heading for the twin peaks or Roman slopes field with all the sheep

I’m at the field where I was the other day, the owner hasn’t showed up yet, maybe too hot for him and he’ll stay next to his swimming pool!
Got a Penny and a few bits in the first hour, just having a cool down and a drink.
Good luck.

 

[Old Git John]

You really need to speak to the horse people then as you stated.

YES it is a must. When you consider asking for permission, check whether the person you speak to is the owner of the property, if NOT,
ask for the details of the tenant, at the same time make sure the owner has no objection to you being on his/her land for the purpose of metal detecting. Once the owner has agreed, you must have the permission of the person farming the land, (the tenant). Without the approval of
both you cannot legally detect there. The other vital commodity is public liability insurance, which can be taken out with either the NCMD or FID. NCMD is the one most commonly used as they do so much for our hobby, and for archaeology as a whole. The insurance cover will
protect you in case of an accident on land for which you have permission to be on. (NCMD £8.00 p.a.)